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Post UNION STATUS Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:09 am
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IF ANYONE HAS ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS OR CORRECTIONS PLEASE ADD:

JUST SOME THINGS PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THE LAST SHOP STEWARDS MEETING: THE MINUTES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE POSTED, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE OR WHERE TO FIND THEM

PERB STILL YET TO RULE ON OUR FATE (OFFICIALLY LEAVING nyscopba, AND ENTERING NEW PARENT UNION)

WE ARE HOPEFULL THAT WE CAN ENTER NEW YORK STATE UNION OF TEACHERS
UNDER UUP (UNITED UNIVERSITY PROFESSIONALS) AND FORM OUR OWN LOCAL EITHER JUST JBLC OR POSSIBLY WITH UPSTATE AND CITY NYS LIFEGUARDS.
NYSUT IS ARGUABLY THE MOST POWERFUL UNION IN NYS AND REPRESENTS A WIDE RANGE OF EMPLOYESS IN VARIOUS TYPES OF LOCALS. THIS WOULD BE THE BEST THING THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN BUT THESE DESCISIONS ARE UP TO PERB AND WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT
(WE WAITED YEARS JUST TO GET THE FAILURE TO REPRESENT MOVING WITH PERB)
WE ARE AT THEIR DISPOSAL

THERE IS A NEW PERB BOARD COMING INTO TERM - NO BODY CAN PREDICT ANYTHING THAT WILL HAPPEN. SO EVERYONE PRAY A LOT
Post Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:50 pm
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Matt;
You can check the following websites for updated info on our status in both PERB (Public Employees Relations Board) and NYSCOPBA as well as GOER (Governors Employee Relations Board). GOER has our current contract between NYSCOPBA and the State of New York.

http://www.nyscopba.org
http://perb.state.ny.us
http://goer.state.ny.us

See you at the meeting April 18th Matt.
Post Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:11 pm
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Here is a ruling on the PERB descision. Why can't the EB get info out like this for people to read. And if it it is available, why doesn;t everyone know about it. I am not saying the EB doen't do a good job. The work that most members of the EB do is volunteer, and in general they serve as good representitives. But no body knows what goes on. If anyone read the other posts from me about the constitution they know that. The biggest problem is that nothing is ever in writing and there are literally no official union records, although the constitution clearly outlines the means for record keeping and communication to the Corps. In defense of the EB, minutes have been taken by computer and printed at recent meetings. This was a great improvement, and thanks to those who made it happen.

ONES BEACH LIFEGUARD CORPS AND CIVIL SERVICE EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION, INC., LOCAL 1000, AFSCME, AFL-CIO AND STATE OF NEW YORK AND NEW YORK STATE CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS AND POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION, INC. AND NEW YORK STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS UNION, DISTRICT COUNCIL 82, AFSCME, AFL-CIO. The Board reversed the ALJ's decision that certain titles in the SSU unit represented by NYSCOPBA be fragmented from the bargaining unit pursuant to representation petitions filed by the Lifeguard Corps and CSEA, on the basis of the difference in dispute resolution procedures between the petitioned for titles and the other titles in the SSU bargaining unit. The Board reiterated that it had not established a "bright line" test requiring fragmentation based solely on the difference in impasse resolution procedures but rather had held in Village of Skaneateles, 16 PERB ΒΆ3070 (1983), that "while not alone mandating the fragmentation sought by the petitioner, the difference in applicable impasse resolution procedures is a significant and important reason for defining a separate unit for police officers." The Board held that "to fragment a unit, otherwise bound by a shared community of interest, on the basis of a difference in dispute resolution procedures available to some, but not other members of the unit, calls for us to presuppose that 'meaningful and effective' negotiations on behalf of one group of unit members or the other is impossible. This is not a factual determination that we can either make on the record before us, or on our historical experience with units so mixed." As a result, the Board dismissed CSEA's petition which was based solely on the difference in impasse resolution procedures and remanded the Lifeguard Corp's petition to the ALJ for further proceedings. (C-5339 & C-5443, 11/8/06)
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